Listen, just before Cecil Smith committed suicide, he told me the only way he could appear on my podcast was if Jeff Strelzin was present.... Now who do you think Jeff Strelzin's main suspect was.... major eyeroll. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Is it possible that she was pregnant at that time? You stated that it wasn't known what liquor store she stopped at there's a liquor store right beside the ATM machine in Amherst. before the crash she went to a liquor store & atm. C.S (and/or another officer) F & T.W. the bus driver stopped & maura said she didnt need help she already called aaa which she really didnt. Do any of her ex-UMASS friends know if she was having any issues with any guys or teachers? I've been following the Maura Murray case for a number of years now and I'm still as intrigued by it as I was when I first got into it. Example: The Jodi Huisentruit Case - missing IA TV Anchor - going on 26 years now. https://twitter.com/armchairdetecti/status/1226855550631190528. that Maura, in some form or other, was intentionally killed by someone for whatever reason (serial killer, opportunist, etc.) At the very least it would be valuable and sentimental for Fred and the family as a whole. The ATM stills were released. Here’s how: We know law enforcement convened a grand jury to hear evidence in Maura Murray’s case. Maura was a stand out student-athlete from Hanson, MA enrolled in the nursing program as a junior at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst. The state testified under oath to the New Hampshire Supreme Court that it had no evidence Maura was a victim of a crime.1 That means the grand jury could not have been convened for the purpose of indicting a suspect, since to do so would require the state to possess not only evidence of a crime but “where, when, and how” the suspect committed it. Why, I don't know. I received this just hours prior to his suicide...... That reads as an email template used to handle all interview requests following his Oxygen appearance with Strelzin. But I do know if he wanted to hide a body it would be at some car crushing place. Maura Murray (born May 4, 1982) is an American woman who disappeared on the evening of February 9, 2004, after a car crash on Route 112 near Woodsville, New Hampshire, a village in the town of Haverhill.Her whereabouts remain unknown. That's why there is a shoe print on the hood of Maura 's car per Erin Larkin in her podcast # Black Box 2. Pursuing an indictment from a grand jury requires the state to specify the crime committed and provide a brief, plain statement of where, when, and how the suspect committed every element of the offense. College, especially with such big future career plans would be GREATLY effected by an unforeseen pregnancy. BA (and possibly his wife if Maura was not breathing or something happened in BA's bus, if you think she might have gotten on to...) Other neighbor/s. Also curious about this. maura murray went to umass, email professors then left amherst for new hampshire. Later Maggie sits down with Maura's family and reveals evidence released by law enforcement for the first time in 13 years. Both are believed to focus on one individual - who for the 2nd one was requested to provide a complete set of finger prints, hand prints and palm prints. This is possibly why it has been given so much media coverage and has become one of the most covered cases of missing women in the entire world. The quantity/brand of the vodka and kahlua missing from her car could theoretically be used to identify her. Do any of her ex-UMASS friends know if she was having any issues with any guys or teachers? I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Maura disappeared after a minor car crash in the White Mountains of NH in 2004. How did she react or communicate with strangers? Its possible they may have their eyes on someone because they have something significant or feel that they are getting closer to piling the pressure on a suspect and as such are keeping their cards very close to their chests, or they may have absolutely nothing and are simply lying to the Murray family because they know they can't solve the case. You say “no evidence” but the fact that she is missing is evidence. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Was the river ever searched and has it been searched in recent years? While I do think dying by misadventure is always a possibility, I do think murder is entirely possible as well. If he did murder Maura, that would be my first guess. My theory: it was overheating, smoking, and she was out of coolant. Your theory about Maura buying the AlumASeal and possibly driving a distinctive looking "car" (I prefer a theory involving a distinctive truck, lol,) reminds me of u/Badduxx9's theory, which I like. Marshal Art Roderick and journalist Maggie Freleng concluded that in their opinion Maura Murray was probably murdered. Many people have been interviewed over the years. What has been found in all of the searches conducted over the years? Strelzin under oath to the New Hampshire Supreme Court: “This could simply be a missing person's case that doesn't have criminal overtones.” Landry confirming a cross-examination statement under oath to the New Hampshire Supreme Court, “The information that's been assembled to date could lead to the conclusion that . Maybe not good evidence or strong evidence but is evidence nonetheless. Was any alcoholic/wine bottles that Maura had in her car ever discovered anywhere close by or anything that a young female adult might have with her? Who is still alive? Was Butch Atwood ever officially a suspect? Tag Archives: suspects in Maura Murray case ... Maura Murray ground search, maura murray podcast, maura murray reddit, miles to nowhere, Not Without Peril, Sam Ledyard, scott wahl, suspects in Maura Murray case, woodsville on July 14, 2019 by sharoninmass. There have been two grand juries convened in her case - no body has ever been recovered - In both instances a "No Bill" was returned by the grand jury. On further reflection I think living near the crash site would be less likely than having a distinctive vehicle or possessing the right criminal record. LE has a suspect and some evidence, but the grand jury doesn't see the complete connection or isn't convinced that there is enough evidence / connection to warrant an arrest or charges. Bringing a case to a grand jury doesn't necessarily mean that LE has enough evidence to convict - actually it is brought to see if they have enough evidence to connect a suspect to a crime. Or my other theory it was JW and LE is covering up that fact. Provided a statement of where, when, and how the suspect committed every element of the crime(s), only to then turn around and tell the New Hampshire Supreme Court under oath it had no evidence that a crime ever occurred. A possible explosive breakthrough in the Maura Murray case has been made. Possible potential suspects: (1-most likely, 17-least likely) (Just my opinion), BA (and possibly his wife if Maura was not breathing or something happened in BA's bus, if you think she might have gotten on to...), Unknown individual/s (Possibly someone involved in Brianna Maitland's case or someone Maura met along the route at some point). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Possible potential suspects: (1-most likely, 17-least likely) (Just my opinion) C.M. Whether or not Maura is deceased is clearly a question that requires an answer but even more so are the following questions (if she is dead): These are also important (until we have credible witness accounts or a confession) questions to ask (because they might help gain new clues/avenues): Which way did Maura walk/jog/run away from her damaged Saturn (assuming BA is innocent and his account is solid & the police are innocent) ? The case has attracted widespread media attention and generated multiple theories: that Maura met with foul play, ran away to Canada to start a new life, took her own life, or perished in the wintery woods after her car crashed on a desolate road in rural New Hampshire. He could have been a local who brought her back to his house and then perhaps made a sexual advance, got rejected and then things went downhill. It could help. Mondayagun. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Her whereabouts remain unknown. Named a criminal suspect, 2. What about the 4000.00 that her father allegedly gave to her? Now’s a good time to catch up! Did the police completely screw up the investigation and now have no way of ever solving it completely or are the police onto someone or something but they don't have enough evidence yet? On rare occasions some posts will be made to express an opinion about how the community is acting, but those will only be temporary. Cookies help us deliver our Services. We need to find the red truck driver. Obviously, I and many others don't wish to see any one jeopardize or potentially ruin a future prosecution attempt but it might be useful for the police to reveal something if they have no credible suspects or new evidence to work with at present. 2004 at the Weathered barn Corner on Rte 112. What do you think was used to kill her? As I noted in another comment, that strikes me as a generic response. It could help. Or two... three... or four people. I have so many unanswered (and probably unanswerable) questions. This post examines the 2004 disappearance of Maura Murray, a 21-year old nursing student from Hanson, Massachusetts. Pregnancy could explain a lot. Former NH State Trooper With Troubled Past Says Maura Was Murdered, Buried Under Suspect’s House Posted on August 26, 2015 May 27, 2020 by James Renner Earlier today, a Facebook profile linked to a former NH State Trooper posted a number of alarming claims on a page run by Maura Murray… We don't have the liquor store footage. But one thing everyone agrees on is that the police and state are focused on a single individual and have presented evidence at two grand juries - and have not been able to convince either of them to indict that individual. We know law enforcement convened a grand jury to hear evidence in Maura Murray’s case. Was any alcoholic/wine bottles that Maura had in her car ever discovered anywhere close by or anything that a young female adult might have with her? This would also explain the problems she was having with her boyfriend, and if she didn’t want the baby, would explain the increased usage of alcohol. Because I never see that talked about anywhere and that really is strange to me. Maura had vodka (and Kahlua) missing from her car. My favorite suspect is currently Claude M. Who needs to have pressure placed on them? 3. https://www.reddit.com/r/mauramurray/comments/clz66u/my_view/. According to his great-niece, who I will call "Lacey": I don't know him too well so I'm not positive about places he likes. If you want to know who lived in the house when the cement was pored in 2004 just Google the address go into Zellow and it tells who lived there and when it was sold. What has been found in all of the searches conducted over the years? Is this in reference to "Carl" and his two buddies? In case you missed it, Maura Murray’s boyfriend, Billy Rausch, imploded on social media last night, attacking Missing Maura Murray podcasters and Maggie Freleng, the journalist from Oxygen’s The Disappearance of Maura Murray, putting them on blast until 5 a.m. Likely, this is the sort of thing that will come out in court when he finally goes to trial for sex abuse in D.C. later this year. Who was/were the employee/s at the store in Feb 2004 and who did he/she/they speak to shortly before and after Maura was in there? Why? Her whereabouts remain unknown. On the most recent episode of “The Disappearance of Maura Murray,” former U.S. Her friends would know. Has any of it been tested for DNA, etc? She said this (thanks for posting this on your Twitter armchair): I wouldn't put it past Claude for a moment of having a hand in Maura's disappearance, at the time, he lived less than a 5 minute drive away from the scene. Did she tell them anything significant leading up to her trip? (such a person might be entirely innocent in Maura’s disappearance but still assert his Fifth Amendment rights when called before a grand jury). The case of Maura Murray continues to perplex and sadden. There has been much speculation and debate about the circumstances surrounding the lead up to her trip and what might have taken place just before she crashed but I feel there has been a lack of focus on potential suspects in this case. Details:After graduating from high school, Maura Murray went to military school, studying chemical … I also don't think she was lost. Maura Murray disappeared on the evening of February 9, 2004, after her car crashed on Rt. If the door was jammed against the snowbank, how was Maura able to open the door and stand 15-20 feet away on the driver's side? I could see a Grand Jury being convened under those circumstances if there was sufficient pressure on the DA. ), Motive (Reasons for why he/she would murder and why you believe that this individual would such a thing), Opportunity ( an occasion that presents itself to allow the crime to take place- Where and when?). Who has been overlooked? Read more. Let's assume (dangerous, I know!) Who has/doesn't have criminal records? In Maura's case - it is very possible that they have a similar situation. It is indeed evidence, either of a crime or no crime. LE in Iowa have been very careful to NOT name name's but they did slip up by naming the suspect in the warrant title for his GPS (even though the contents are sealed). I may have been too oblique in my post so I'll state it directly here: It is categorically impossible representatives of the State of New Hampshire went before a grand jury and 1. Maura Murray: Theories About Why She's Missing | Crime News I can't find "Carl's" contact information, but as far as I know, no one has ever interviewed him. What makes you think it was Maura that Butch saw at the Weathered Barn corner? As a reminder, we encourage all users to read the subreddit rules and keep all discussion civil and respectful. If anything has been collected, what? Without definitive proof of what became of Maura Murray, it’s difficult to connect her to Israel Keyes. Is there any further CCTV footage from the ATM or any from the liquor store or potentially anywhere else? Who needs to have pressure placed on them? I sometimes think they have ruined any real chances of finding the culprit/s but I could be wrong. An opportunist/employee from the area/someone passing through. Because officially the exact liquor Maura bought has not been identified. Her whereabouts remain unknown. Which way did Maura walk/jog/run away from her damaged Saturn (assuming BA is innocent and his account is solid & the police are innocent) ? At the end of the day we are left with two main ways to focus on the police. She was a 21-year-old nursing student completing her junior year at the University of Massachusetts Amherst at the time of her disappearance. 'The Disappearance of Maura Murray' on Oxygen is … Where do you think the weapon/s might have been placed after the crime? He worked with cars so he could have hid the body in a car, then the car gets crushed, and yep. Please don't use their actual names. Nothing connected to Maura that we know of. Your scenario is so detailed that it’s relatively easy to imagine. Construction workers. At least 3 of the people named above were at the scene of the Saturn accident or very close to the scene. Start here with Part One. I believe it’s possible. Who needs interrogating again? Were all of the properties surrounding the area of the crash, or close to the crash site thoroughly examined for evidence of young female items (assuming no females lived in those houses) ? And that's information at the town hall for anyone to find out. Is it possible that she ran away to let’s say Montreal Canada or Las Vegas NV? https://reddit.com/r/MauraMurrayEvidence/ launch Did she talk to any liquor store employee/s about routes because she was lost? Use their initials or make up names but keep the real individuals first letters of their forenames/surnames. Have all the witnesses (besides BA who is now dead) and police involved in that evening been thoroughly interrogated? Bill was Maura’s boyfriend when she went missing in February 2004 and has been sharing his recollections of Maura, her disappearance, and the subsequent search. he lived across the street from where the car accident was on route 112. Press J to jump to the feed. On another note, do you think Maura hitched a ride to the White Mountains and something happened there, or do you think she was taken (or went by herself) to a property/vehicle not too far away from the crash scene, and then something took place then? She was a nursing student completing her junior year at the University of Massachusetts Amherst at the … Several warrants were issued in both instances and only 1 of them (for the afore mentioned suspect's gps systems from two vehicles that he previously owned) remains sealed. The G. Brothers. Let’s imagine the employee lived near the crash site or drove a distinctive vehicle seen near the crash. Watch the finale of 'The Disappearance of Maura Murray' The DNA results are revealed, Maggie seeks the advice of a psychic, and a wild lead is pursued at the top of a mountain. Skye and I were speaking to one another at the time of the disappearance, and she hinted, so I do believe 100% that she knows something. For all we know, she never left school that day and someone else was driving that car somewhere. Have any properties in the surrounding area/s had any suspicious fires or work done to them? A repository of evidence about the Maura Murray case. His girlfriend's sister lived very close to the crash site, with the son of the woman who lived in the "basement" house. What do you think about Yankton or Vermillion South Dakota? If Maura was able to open the driver's side door, was there damage on the door left behind from the friction between the snowbank and the door? In a nutshell, I suppose there is a chance she fled the scene to avoid a DUI (Atwood mentioned cops right from the start, that would explain her not wanting his help) and subsequently she traveled on foot for an unspecified distance. Have any properties been demolished? . Were the occupants ever interrogated fully or at all, and did any of them do any thing suspicious in the days after Maura's seemingly mysterious disappearance? Cecil Smith was the former chief of police for the little town of Haverhill, New Hampshire, where Maura went missing in 2004. Has anyone who was interviewed at the time been re-interviewed since? A small black Saturn appeared to be wedged against a snowbank on the road outside her home in Woodsville, New Hampshire. Think about this, I was trying to post the names of suspects in Maura Murray’s case, then I was chased away and now this is the narrative by James Renner: He claims that the party Maura attended had 3 guys… omg does this never end, remember the loon mountain three and where that ended. One that comes to mind is Forcier. If anything has been collected, what? Why? At the very least it would be valuable and sentimental for Fred and the family as a whole. (it might be important...perhaps). I don't see how it could be important, it was in Hadley Ma. The Loon Mountain 3. It's extremely difficult to tell but the Murray family seem to be rather upbeat about the case being brought to a close in the foreseeable future, whether that is because of being eternal optimists, the police leading them into a false sense of optimism or whether the police actually have something to work with is not known by the general public. Obviously, we don't know for sure whether Maura is actually deceased but it seems the most plausible answer to 16+ years of silence (unless someone is hiding something...). It's quite possible that it may never be cracked but I try to remain optimistic and hopeful that it will be. She then could have been picked up by a stranger who offered help. The only remaining possibility is that the grand jury was convened for the purpose of gathering evidence to determine whether a crime had even occurred. Skye, on the other hand, is a mother and her daughter is everything to her. i.e missing persons/young females being assaulted & raped/murders. A drunk cop barreled added down 112 goes across the Westmans lawn hits Maura as she was standing in front of her car trying to get cell signal kills her or seriously injured her throws her in his cruiser and takes her somewhere to bury her. Were any cars from the surrounding area/s crushed shortly afterwards? Perhaps it was someone who isn't mentioned in this list? but witness says there was a car crash. There may be a break in the case involving 21-year-old nursing student Maura Murray who disappeared the night of Feb. 9 after she was involved in a one … Has anyone here ever listened to the missing maura murray podcast and remember when they talked about the investigators taking the exhaust thing off her car because there was a rag in it, that her dad told her to put in there? She was on route 112, she was going east, she knew 112 east of the crash site, so I don't see how she could have been lost. Maura Murray was last seen in Haverhill / Woodsville NH on Feb 9th. To do so would have constituted perjury and ended their careers. Has any of it been tested for DNA, etc? Is it possible to have it all colorized and analysed by professionals? Or perhaps they have evidence (and witnesses or a witness) that they (LE) have not yet released to the public. What was Maura like under the influence of alcohol? Is there any further CCTV footage from the ATM or any from the liquor store or potentially anywhere else? Who has moved away from that area since Feb 2004 and where are they living now? Her whereabouts remain unknown. Find more subreddits like r/MauraMurrayonReddit -- Maura Murray on Reddit is a sub dedicated to discussing the Maura Murray case. But the truth is, no one knows for sure what happened to Murray, whether she succumbed to the elements in a secluded area or simply walked away. Was anyone left out from the area that night and why? If you notice in the ATM machine Maura is wearing BLACK heeled boots either rubber or leather. Can you please summarize Badduxx9’s theory, u/fulknwp? The sheriff thanked her for calling and dispatched officers. What other (for the time being...cold) cases are similar to Maura's and are within a few hours away from the area? 112 in Haverhill, NH. On the family’s website he claims he told her to put it in to avoid getting pulled over for the amount of exhaust coming from her tailpipe, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the mauramurray community. Who was at that party she apparently went to? Maura Murray disappeared on the evening of February 9, 2004, after a car crash on Route 112 in Woodsville, New Hampshire, a village in Haverhill. 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